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 Post subject: ANC sucks!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:43 am 
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100204085/why-did-it-take-the-killing-of-a-pretty-white-woman-for-western-liberals-to-realise-the-new-south-africa-isnt-a-bed-of-roses/

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To the critical observer, it should have been clear for years that this so-called Rainbow Nation, born of the end of Apartheid and the election of the ANC in 1994, is a dark, unpleasant place. The unhinged police assault on those striking miners last year was only the most graphic manifestation of the ANC's creation of an even more unequal, unpredictable society than that which existed under the racist rulers of the Apartheid era. As a Yale University study found recently, in the New South Africa "income inequality has probably grown". Certainly life expectancy – that basic measure of a nation's fortunes – has declined in the New South Africa, falling from 62 years in 1990 to a truly depressing 49 years in 2012. Life for most blacks in ANC-ruled South Africa (not those blacks who were on the ANC's gravy train to power, of course) is harsh, unequal, brutish and short; and as those miners learned last year, anyone who fights back against the new system risks being mown down by the cops. It is not surprising that such living conditions, that the glaringly unrealised hopes of the post-Apartheid era, have nurtured much fear and violence in the New South Africa.


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And the other reason liberals have been reluctant to criticise the New South Africa until now is because they remain enamoured of the ANC. Pointing a harsh, questioning finger at the Marikana massacre would have meant exposing the ANC's authoritarian, poverty-spreading, violent tendencies, which is not something that right-thinking Westerners, who fantasise that they helped bring the ANC to power, are willing to do.

As a result, these observers have implicitly created a hierarchy of victims in the New South Africa. Steenkamp is at the top; those Marikana miners stew at the bottom.


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 Post subject: Re: ANC sucks!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:27 pm 
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They have a long experience killing civilians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe

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 Post subject: Re: ANC sucks!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:52 pm 
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Thank you for bringing this article to my attention Marko. I encourage you all to read the most highly-rated comments, they are a good deal more insightful than the article itself (much as the author should be commended for his honesty)

The comment by prester_john is the best description of The Left that I have ever seen:

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You're getting there Brendan. The point is that the "hierarchy of victims " is not an accident nor unique to this case. It is the whole basis on which lefties' views and loyalties in any issue are shaped - i.e. not by its rights and wrongs, but by who the protagonists are.

Any group you can think of can be slotted somewhere into the heirarchy of those whom the left either likes - ethnic minorities, Muslims, communists, strikers, the disabled, women, gays, public sector workers, dole claimants, and criminals, for example - or loathes: Americans, farmers, taxpayers, men generally, consumers of public services, and owners of private wealth.

These hatred instruct the left on any issue. If demonstrating NUM miners are forcibly dispersed by the police, they side with the miners. If the Countryside Alliance are dispersed by the police, however, they side with the police, because they like miners and hate farmers.

If a Tory government withdraws money from pensioners it's the epitome of evil. If an NHS worker leaves the elderly to starve to death in their own excrement, the left couldn't care less. The left isn't pro-elderly unless this means being anti-someone else. If the someone else is the NHS producer, then the left isn't pro-elderly any more. The side they pick is the producer, who matters more than the consumer.

Where it all goes tits up is when two different client groups are at each others' throats. So the leftist sympathises with the criminal in general - unless the crime is domestic violence. Now he sympathises with the woman. Unless, again, the man is a Muslim cleric, in which case he has to look away. Reggae singers going on about shooting gays in the head: this does not compute. Gangs of Muslims threatening gays: does not compute. Pretend it isn't happening.

The left doesn't really give a toss about miners. What matters is who else is involved. White British police? - side with the miners. Black Communist-controlled police? - side with the police, they're above reproach - or at any rate, above miners.

As we've noted before, Lefties reduce every issue to a disgusting form of Top Trumps. They are, quite simply, morally incompetent.


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 Post subject: Re: ANC sucks!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:55 pm 
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This comment by bugalugs2 is exactly what I was thinking while reading the article:

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"why is the shooting of a white woman in a domestic setting more shocking to liberal commentators than the massacre of 34 black miners at a public strike and demonstration?"

Oh come off it Brendan, it's perfectly obvious. The former has a white as the putative 'villain', the latter would have to take to task the black government. It's simply the normal racism of the 'liberal left'. It's safe to get on a high horse when it's a white who looks like the villain, but they are afraid of being howled down by their peers for 'racism' if they start criticising the black side of South Africa, so they stick with the racism they know to be safe.


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 Post subject: Re: ANC sucks!
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This is what I said about the ANC a few months back on our South African libertarian google group:

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At its core, the ANC is a violent, racist, authoritarian, Marxist-Leninist organization - and has been for at least half a century. This is what I have gathered from the writings of RW Johnson, John Kane-Berman, Paul Trewhala, Anthea Jeffery, Wikipedia and (oh yes) the ANC's own press statements.


You can find the true story of the ANC in the following books (among others):

People's War, by Anthea Jeffery

Inside Quatro: Uncovering the Exile History of the ANC and Swapo, by Paul Trewhela
(http://mg.co.za/article/2010-03-05-inside-quatro)

South Africa's Brave New World, by RW Johnson


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 Post subject: Re: ANC sucks!
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It's sad to watch as the ANC fulfills every awful prediction the most ardent supporters of the Apartheid had surrounding a "black government" :(

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 Post subject: Re: ANC sucks!
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Can anyone say 'poetic justice'? At least in the sense of standard democratic theory, they got what they voted for and so deserve what they get (the ANC's voters, that is).


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 Post subject: Re: ANC sucks!
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Should I bring up the voters of Germany in 1932? Did they also get what they voted for? Even those who voted against or didn't vote?

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 Post subject: Re: ANC sucks!
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AndrisBirkmanis wrote:
Should I bring up the voters of Germany in 1932? Did they also get what they voted for? Even those who voted against or didn't vote?

The ones who voted for Hitler got what they voted for, at least in terms of simple democratic theory (by which I mean the kind of Public Choice theory that assumes people desire every single action the government they vote for takes, upon which the inclusion of 100% of government spending in GDP is based). I'm not supporting this theory, I just find it useful in this particular circumstance as a way of maximising personal satisfaction via maximising my opportunity for schadenfreude (I take pleasure when people suffer negative consequences for a making a decision I subjectively consider immoral, such as voting for a racist socialist party). Is it not possible to simultaneously feel both sorrow for the individuals who didn't vote for Hitler/ANC and joy at the sufferings of those who did vote for them?


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